which nation is strongest? before, during, after the war? (24 posts)

  • momo2009

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    said 8 months, 3 weeks ago

    I would have to say that i believe the earth kingdom was strongest before the war because of it size, terrority and large military.

    The fire nation became stronger during the war because it invest in new technology to help them conqure the world.

    And now i belive in korra time it 3 nation which are a balance of power in the world.
    fire nation, earth kingdom and united republic keeping each other in balance, just like the three kingdoms. :P

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    said 8 months, 3 weeks ago

    well, i will say Fire nation. but i got 1 question it isn’t important that about the technology. the fire nation is on the strongest if the Sozin’s Comet is arrived. but that is the question.. do you still have the sozin’s Comet?

  • Ricardo

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    said 8 months, 3 weeks ago

    @avatarg33k Sozin’s Comet comes around every 100 years.
    Though the Fire Nation has proven itself to be extremely powerful even without the comet as it has constantly attacked the other nations during the 100 years without the aid of the comet.

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    said 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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    is it every one hundard years or just in cycle of hundard of years
    like year 100, 200, 300, then 500 year of nothing then 900, 1000 etc.

    cause if it every 100 year, why havn’t the fire nation started a war each time and conqure the world. :P big question.

    Or the full moon for water bender, did they every used it power to conqure the world plus it every month, more chance of success right? LOL ;)

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    said 8 months, 3 weeks ago

    There was probably some reputation that caused fear in their opponents after the comet.
    But their utilisation of technology was probably what really helped them get to where they are by the start of ATLA, much of the Earth Kingdom tech was created by The Mechanist and Sokka during ATLA. So they may have had number advantage, but not tech advantages.

    It really is only ever between those 2, with the water tribes so isolated from on another it is hard to judge their combined strength at any time. Though I do think a combined NWT/SWT with lots of Waterbenders would be amazing.

    And if for some reason the Air Nomads formed an Army that would also be very interesting to see how effective they are.

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    said 8 months, 3 weeks ago

    @airspeed Just imagine hundreds of gliders in the air, and then hundreds of tornadoes forming within seconds. ;) :P

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    said 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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    i think the water tribe could had been raiding the other nation before the formation of the modern concept of the 4 nation. Like the vikings raided europe during the dark ages when central goverment was weak.

    The earth kingdom i believe was divided into many states and must have fought each other until the earth king unified them. I have a story for this situation…..

    the fire nation were once the sun warrior but something happen and they had to rebuilt there new nation under the fire sages, which would later lead to the royal family etc.

    now the air nomad are the most Perplexing, why are they nomad, and as we can see airbending can be use in a deadly way. So i belive that the ancestor of the air nomad were also a nation which fought to control the world, or resource, but something happen and the air nomad were formed, and violence was outlaw. It just seem the air nomad culture is kind of unnaturally made, because one of the most powerful form of bending and people are so Pacifist.

    And if anyone has notice, airbending doesn’t have any weakness. It doesn’t need a source to use. Water – u need water and you have to pray that the moon spirit isn’t killed. Earth-u need earth duh to bend, and it restricted on land itself, unless you carry rock with you? :P

    fire and air are the only element which don’t need substance to bend but both require Spirituality , like zuko needed to find his momo inner spirit agian after joining team avatar, and air as we see from korra, you need lot of spirit.

    But fire has one weakness, solar eclipse, bye bye power for 10 mins. (yeah not that weak cause you do get comet which allow you super avatar power every one hundard year (we think) i hope it isn’t every one hundard.

    so from all the facts, air is the most reliable and usable element, but it is shown as a less deadly art. (people who used it havn’t done all the damage that they can with it.)

    like how can you really beat an airbender(without technology, and sozin, bloodbending etc) in a fair fight, you can’t hit them and they can just fly around and knock you off a cliff or just use a tornado etc. it the lack of deadly moves that got the air nomad wiped out, but way were any deadly move see…did they do some bad in there past so now they forsake all airbending move that are deadly ;)

    If i was the creator i would write a series about how the air nomad were ruler of the world but change and became what they are now. cool right?! :P

    or something close to that.

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    said 8 months, 3 weeks ago

    @momo2009 Interesting theory.
    Aang also said at the Northern Air Temple that Airbenders are naturally born with the spirit, which just unbalances them even more in your theory. :P

    Although the solar eclipse seems to occur more often than the comet, it only lasts 8 minutes whereas the comet lasts for much longer, and the power it grants just overshadows the negative effect of the eclipse.
    It was stated in the show that it was every 100 years. Sozin was in his elderly ages when the comet came, then Azulon must have reigned and died in the next few decades, then Ozai ascended the throne and used the second comet to try and wipe out the Earth Nations.

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    said 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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    we only seen it twice for every 100 year, it doesnt mean it happen all the time cause then why dont the fire nation just attack every time. And beside the creator can change this if they want to. for ex

    airbending required spirit…korra i love you mako. air power back.

    air bison and air lemur down to one of each: yep aang found new bison and lemur, and is the world really that big for him to find some new species, we know he travel the world, he had friend all over the world, so wow i didn’t know this sub species existed really :P

    “which just unbalances them even more in your theory” i dont understand what you are saying, they can’t be evil? or air bending itself doesn’t allow for violence?

    the creator can do anything they want and i hope they do what i have just proposed.

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    said 8 months, 3 weeks ago

    @momo2009 said:
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    “which just unbalances them even more in your theory” i dont understand what you are saying, they can’t be evil? or air bending itself doesn’t allow for violence?

    @momo2009 Since you said there are no restrictions or downsides to airbending, apart from them having to have the spirit. But since they’re born with it, wouldn’t it make them even more powerful and unbalanced? :P

    That’s what I meant.

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    said 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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    oh yeah, so there could have been airbending(empire or something) but they became remorseful and decided to become monks and nuns and abandoned all material desire and focused on spiritual stuff.

    Why can’t the creator come up with this stuff, i mean i see fan fiction on this site with so much promise. sigh.
    my isn’t great, but it get the ball rolling, the only reason i hate the amon is a waterbender is because it was too easy and the creator thought it was the best plot….

    I hope they are reading some of the group fan fiction for inspiration. yeah air empire here we come.

    history of the 4 nation….. i will create a fan timeline. asap :P

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    said 8 months, 3 weeks ago

    Before the war- Fire Nation because they had a notable economy. The Air Nomads could of been but the idea behind the Fire NAtion economic growth was because of an industrial revalution type time period the Fire Nation had because of smolting with fire. This happened before the war began and not during because, why attack a larger nation (no reason).
    During the war- Northern Water Tribes because they endured a hundred years of the Fire Nation, than the Earth Kingdom, then the Fire Nation and at that point the Air Nomads were gone. I could put the Avatar as more powerfull than the Fire Navy.
    After The War- Fire Nation because they would of won the war if their leader wasn’t defeated and they didn’t start being loyal to Zuko.

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    said 8 months, 3 weeks ago

    I kind of view as this as WW2

    In the Pacific Japan is the Fire Nation, Korea is the Air Nomads, China is the Earth Kingdom and I guess the US would be the Water Tribes.

    Ironically, the Japanese almost wiped out Taekkyeon, a Korean Martial Art, but one Master managed to survive and pass on his teachings (sound familiar)?

    For Europe Germany is the Fire Nation, Poland is the Air Nomads, The USSR is the Earth Kingdom and the UK is the Water Tribes.

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    said 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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    interesting. i would say the water tribes are australia. :P

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    said 8 months, 3 weeks ago

    Fire nation before and after because they have the comet on there side.
    and the water tribe after because the two came in peace. pluse they got korra

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